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[00:00.62] Michael: So how’s crime in the big cities, like in Rome? How is crime in Rome?

[00:05.62] Goron: Well, many people are complaining for the huge immigration. Like we have many foreigners and illegal foreigners actually.

[00:14.12] They come in with boats during the night, they’re landing, and we cannot control, we cannot stop them because Italy is in the middle of Europe.

[00:21.37] So from Northern Africa, for many like – I wouldn’t say underdeveloped countries but the countries that see Italy like the…

[00:36.88] Win: Dream.

[00:37.87] Goron: America or like dream, like opportunities, which is changing right with the recent crisis.

[00:43.12] Michael: It’s actually very interesting because we have the same problem in Norway.

[00:46.87] Win: I’m seeing the same problem everywhere.

[00:49.62] Michael: Because of the European economic agreement, it’s actually illegal to come and try to find work.

[00:53.12] But the problem is that people abused us and they come – they are just to, you know – beg for money or to steal money or steal things from others.

[01:04.37] And it’s really easy to pass the border without being controlled.

[01:07.12] Goron: I don’t think those people are bad. It’s like poverty makes you bad.

[01:12.37] Michael: No, I’m not saying they’re bad.

[01:14.12] Win: Yeah.

[01:14.87] Goron: If you are desperate, you feel desperate, you do something that is, like we say, illegal.

[01:19.37] Michael: And that’s a huge problem because in the EU right now, there’s several countries which have poverty, and it evolves from that, I think.

[01:31.87] It’s really hard like to create, to make everyone happy and to – I don’t think it’s possible to solve the poverty matter.

[01:40.37] So what about Vietnam?

[01:43.12] Win: Well, the city I’m living in is very – there is no really people who was born in the city.

[01:53.87] I mean, I was born in the city but I have roots from everywhere. And most of the people from the city is like that.

[01:59.87] We They’re from everywhere from the country and the city welcomes them no matter what.

[02:06.12] So yes, we do have a problem that people keep flocking to my city to find jobs, and we have crimes and everything.

[02:17.37] But I think the fact that we have multi-origin people is one of the facts that makes the city interesting.