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[00:00.64] Sarah: So John, do you like to play golf?

[00:03.39] John: Well, no. I don't play golf very much, but I play disc golf.

[00:09.89] Sarah: Disc golf? What's that?

[00:12.64] John: Well, some people call it Frisbee golf. Basically, there are courses at parks.

[00:18.64] It's similar to golf but the courses are much smaller. You use Frisbees or a flying disc and you have to throw it.

[00:30.39] So it's different from golf.

[00:34.64] You're not aiming for a small hole but actually, you need to throw the Frisbee into a basket.

[00:41.14] Sarah: Oh, that sounds fun. Is it very easy?

[00:44.14] John: Well, it can be easy or it can be very difficult. It depends on the course.

[00:51.89] Many different parks have different disc golf courses. And you can be an easy beginner or you can be an expert.

[01:03.14] It all depends on how much you want to get involved.

[01:06.39] Sarah: I see.

[01:07.64] John: My friends are I, we are beginners, so we just like to have fun.

[01:13.64] So we just do the easy courses and have a good time. I think it's relaxing.

[01:21.64] Sarah: So you only need one Frisbee?

[01:24.64] John: Well actually, it's better to have two or three.

[01:29.14] You can play with one but in fact, when you learn more about disc golf, there are different sizes and weights of the discs.

[01:41.64] Sarah: Why would you want a different size disc?

[01:44.89] John: Well, it's similar to the clubs in golf. When you throw you first throw, you want it to go very far, so you should use a heavier disc.

[01:57.14] But when you're near the basket, you should make a short throw, so you want a lightweight disc.

[02:05.89] Sarah: I see. That's interesting.

[02:08.64] John: Yeah. So as I said, when you want to become an expert, you have to spend more money to get better equipment.

[02:16.89] It's like any sport, I guess. In fact, they have disc golf competitions now.

[02:23.39] So you can even participate in a tournament and win some prize money.

[02:28.89] Sarah: Did you ever compete?

[02:30.64] John: Oh no. I'm just a beginner. I don't think I want to be too serious about it.

[02:36.14] Sarah: So golf has 18 holes. How about disc golf? Does it have 18 holes, too?

[02:43.64] John: Well, not usually. Golf courses are very large, but disc golf courses are usually found in parks. So they usually have only six holes.

[02:58.39] But you can play 18 holes by doing all 6 three times each.

[03:05.89] Sarah: I see. How do you keep score?

[03:08.14] John: Scorekeeping is like real golf. So the winner should have the lowest score.

[03:16.64] Every time you throw a Frisbee or a flying disc, you have to mark one point.

[03:23.64] So if you can do a hole in one, that means you can hit the basket on your first try, then you'll only have one point. That's best.

[03:35.14] Sarah: Uh-hmm.

[03:36.39] John: But I'm not that good at it. So usually, I have three or four points for each course.

[03:43.39] Sarah: I see. You said disc golf is at the park. Do you have little kids playing in the middle of the course?

[03:52.14] John: Sometimes, the kids – of course, they can play wherever they want.

[03:56.39] And the courses do go through the park where kids play.

[04:00.64] So we have to be very careful, and we have to use good sportsmanship to wait for the course to be clear.

[04:08.64] Sarah: It sounds like a lot of fun.

[04:11.39] John: It is fun. Maybe you can join us next time.

[04:14.14] Sarah: That sounds great. Thank you.