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[00:01.63] Todd: Did your kids work when they were in school?

[00:04.38] How did you feel about your kids when they were in high school?

[00:07.13] Angela: My kids had to work for their pocket money, so they would have chores to do and they would get pocket money.

[00:13.38] They would help with the washing up, sweeping, cleaning, whatever. They worked hard to earn their pocket money.

[00:20.13] They thought it was really hard.

[00:21.38] Todd: So did you ever withhold their wages?

[00:24.63] Angela: Yeah.

[00:25.13] Todd: You did? Really?!

[00:26.13] Angela: Yeah.

[00:27.13] Todd: You’d be like, “No, you didn’t do your chores. You don’t get the money”?

[00:29.38] Angela: Yeah, you're not having it. Yeah.

[00:30.13] Todd: Really?! How often would you have to do that?

[00:31.13] Angela: More so in the beginning. Once they get the idea, you know, if you don’t work for your money, you don’t get your money.

[00:38.38] And that’s a life lesson, isn’t it? If you don’t do your work, you don’t get money.

[00:42.38] Todd: That is great! Because I think a lot of people just assume, even me, like I’ve never had children, but the parents just spoil the kids.

[00:48.38] They don’t want to have the hassle, they don’t want to have the fight, they just give them the money.

[00:54.13] Angela: But you look at the difference between the Western kids and the kids out here.

[00:58.38] You can go on a bus trip with the kids out here. You can go on a six-hour bus trip.

[01:04.13] You don’t hear a peep out of the kids. They stop there. The mom’s asleep, maybe the kid’s asleep as well.

[01:08.63] If you put Western kids on a bus for six hours, you’d have to have a PlayStation or a tablet or something.

[01:14.38] They’d be crying. You’d have to feed them things.

[01:16.13] It’s a totally different way of acting.

[01:20.13] Todd: Yeah.

[01:20.63] Angela: I miss that. When I came to Asia, I noticed that the kids were happier with less, much less than we have.

[01:28.13] And it wasn’t until I spent the year in Asia and then I went to Australia, landed in Sydney, noticed one thing,

[01:36.13] that the people were much bigger, but also the kids were just so spoiled.

[01:40.88] The parents were just giving in to them.

[01:45.38] Todd: So you think that maybe we need to rectify that situation, that we should stop spoiling kids.

[01:51.63] Angela: Yeah, I do.

[01:52.38] Todd: Take away the PlayStation.

[01:53.63] Angela: Yeah.

[01:54.63] Todd: Just stick them outside, yeah.

[01:55.88] Angela: You can get stalls today with - a place where you can put the kids’ tablet.

[02:00.13] Todd: Yeah, it’s crazy.

[02:01.63] Angela: Why won’t the kid just look at the world?

[02:03.38] Todd: Yeah. It’s so funny you mentioned that because before we were talking about potential business ideas, and I have an idea called “Camp Boredom.”

[02:12.88] Angela: Boredom is good.

[02:14.13] Todd: Yeah. What happens at Camp Boredom is you send your kid to Camp Boredom and it’s just a camp in the woods or on a farm.

[02:20.88] The kids come and they go, “What do we do?” and I go, “I don’t know. Nothing. Go outside. Just find something to do.”

[02:27.38] Angela: No Wi-Fi.

[02:28.13] Todd: Yeah, because I grew up no Wi-Fi, no nothing. I grew up on a farm and I’m really blessed.

[02:31.38] I had no idea how blessed I was at the time. But I grew up, I spent all time on my grandfather’s farm, and we had nothing to do.

[02:39.63] I mean, nothing. But we had this farm, like, so we had everything to do.

[02:43.38] So the rule was, you had to be up for breakfast at 7:00 and then once you finished breakfast, you had to be out of the house, like you could not be in the house.

[02:51.13] It was almost forbidden to be in the house unless it’s like raining outside.

[02:54.88] And you would be outside from sun-up to sundown.

[02:59.13] Angela: Yeah, climbing fences, climbing trees, [inaudible 0:03:02.2] haystacks.

[03:03.88] Todd: Right, having the best time of your life. And your imagination is going and you just… Oh! The little things that you would do.

[03:10.88] Oh, we’re going to build a tree fort. Oh, we’re going to do this. Oh, we’re going to do that.

[03:13.63] Angela: We’re going to stop the river from flowing.

[03:15.13] Todd: Right, right. So that’s my idea.

[03:16.88] I think Camp Boredom. So maybe we have to…

[03:19.13] Angela: I think boredom is good for kids.

[03:20.63] Todd: Yeah. How so?

[03:21.63] Angela: Because, as you say, you know, if they’re always entertained and always fed, then they don’t get to learn how to entertain themselves.

[03:30.38] Todd: Yeah.

[03:31.13] Angela: If you sit them in a car with nothing for six hours…

[03:33.88] Todd: Right.

[03:34.63] Angela: Then look out the window.

[03:35.63] Todd: There was a great thing recently with Jerry Seinfeld, the comedian.

[03:40.13] He has a bit where he talks about how his mother would take him to the bank when he was a kid, and like a bank or department store was the ultimate space of boredom.

[03:50.39] Like there’s nothing you can do. You’re so bored, you just want to like flop down on the floor type of thing.

[03:56.63] But you’re right, like I don’t know if kids have that anymore.

[03:59.63] Angela: No, they don’t.

[04:01.13] Todd: Where they hit that wall where there’s nothing for them to do, you know.

[04:05.63] Angela: No.

[04:06.13] Todd: So do you think that maybe we should limit the devices, the smartphones, all that, that kids use?

[04:13.63] Angela: I do think we should but I think it’s too late now.

[04:15.88] I think we’re past the point where you can get Wi-Fi and it’s that… You know, if we took off the kids now, what would they do? They’d be bored.

[04:23.13] Todd: Well, you can just never give it to them, right?

[04:25.63] Angela: Yeah, in the first place.

[04:27.38] Todd: Maybe that’s impossible.

[04:31.38] Angela: It’s impossible.

[04:32.38] Todd: Okay, cool.